Voteban Problem.

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Hey nickna, any reason why you have the same IP as Sean_PriceBF4 in our forums ???? One or the other is going to be banned from here, which user name do you prefer? Nice try though.. Ive been doing this a while. That's typical behavior of someone that's a fucking cheat.

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That’s insane two totally different people with the same IP!!!!

Wooooooow

How’s the weather in Carthage NY?
 
im his brother so we have the same internet connection, hence why i have a different battlefield account. when you dont know who we are irl or what we have to work with so dont assume things you dont know are true or not. no im not linking my battlefield account either.
 
i mentioned that to blunt specialist and i accused akula of being biased in a case i havent talked about. a case which he claims he is the expert on and apparently made the decision to begin with so i dont think he's going to admit he's wrong from how prideful he seems to be and i never said i wasnt biased but im making a case for my brother like you would do if ur brother was being accused of anything. i didnt think it was pertinent at this time to say im his brother because this isnt about me or him even its about making sure a hackusation cant be put through a voteban because something may look fishy when really technology can have a way of fucking with the mind
 
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So, is there actually a way for me to keep playing? They just throw a temper tantrum when they notice I'm present and then I'm gone, and I'm not the first one they've done it to. I've talked to at least 7+ other regulars that are having this happen as well. I thought a respectable clan would take measures to make their server fun and available for EVERYONE, not just the select few who can jump in with the mob mentality and kick players out just because "H@XXXX!". There's plenty of things that can be done. You could raise the vote count needed for a ban, disable the system (probably bad idea for actual hackers), or put a section in where people can go through a process to verify they aren't hacking and gain immunity or at least a higher vote threshold, because at this point if I really wanted to I could ask my old teammates to squad up with me and just jump in and ban everyone in the server and there wouldn't be a thing they could do about it. Don't misconstrue that as a threat. I'm not going to do that, but the example illustrates my point that the system is broken and just a kick privilege for casual players.

To answer your question, if I were you I would squad up with the people that you recognize vote banning you and ask them what issues they have. So much can be solved in a simple verbal Conversation. We are providers of a free service nothing more.
 
That’s insane two totally different people with the same IP!!!!

Wooooooow

How’s the weather in Carthage NY?

i love that my ip shows im 19 miles away from where i am but yes it appears thats the case i will literally show u a video of where me and my bro play in the same house if u dont believe me but until then dont assume we're not 2 different people
 
Pashkinodji,

On behalf of AARP, we would like to thank you for your interest in clearing your name. At this time your file is under review. Can you please provide me with your alias background and various accounts if any. I will need it to further build on your case and present it to management. Should you have any questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact me.
 
i mentioned that to blunt specialist and i accused akula of being biased in a case i havent talked about. a case which he claims he is the expert on and apparently made the decision to begin with so i dont think he's going to admit he's wrong from how prideful he seems to be and i never said i wasnt biased but im making a case for my brother like you would do if ur brother was being accused of anything. i didnt think it was pertinent at this time to say im his brother because this isnt about me or him even its about making sure a hackusation cant be put through a voteban because something may look fishy when really technology can have a way of fucking with the mind

Dude I call it like I see it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong... I don't care. So let me guess, you're his little brother? He is such a nice guy to share his account with you. AWWWWWW
 
little brother by 2 years not that i can control that. while my bf4 was bought by him this isnt his account jackass. and even the bf4 account he didnt play on, it was only an account he lent to his friends on occasion so all the stat are mine cuz i've worked it up from like level 10. so if want to shit on me being a little brother you can go cry about it to make up for the void left not having a brother or having a little brother who you dont care for apparently.
 
Awww, I'm touched. 2 years huh? I'm 2 years younger too. Can be trying sometimes. Never getting the "NEW" bike. Always the hand me down. Never the babysitter, always the baby... Yeah bud, those years sucked balls. I feel you bro.

Sooo what is it you would like me to prove/disprove? Because your behavior clearly shows you were trying to hide something as I've stated in a previous post.
 
ur lucky i cant tell if ur jk or not but we didnt have any business with u even originally i just dont like people knowing who i am across platforms unless i deem them to be trustworthy, but if you have been paying attention on the server you should know what my origin name is and no its not "nickna". i am not my brother and i have nothing to hide i just dont want to show it.
 
Awww, I'm touched. 2 years huh? I'm 2 years younger too. Can be trying sometimes. Never getting the "NEW" bike. Always the hand me down. Never the babysitter, always the baby... Yeah bud, those years sucked balls. I feel you bro.

Sooo what is it you would like me to prove/disprove? Because your behavior clearly shows you were trying to hide something as I've stated in a previous post.
 
Akula, I said before - I don't have any alies or another accounts. Since I have bought bf3 until present - my origin name was the same. I've never changed it. Also never had any other accounts.
 
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Well first of all, your statements are innacurate.

You’re saying that I go off from one fishy kill of statistic, you’re wrong. When I’m playing And I suspect someone I’ll look up the player and look at all the numbers like I’ve explained many times and the. There are the players who complain in chat of all the WTF kills the player is scoring. Usually this warrants more research and usually the player comes up as a cheater but again, like I and many others here have said; there is no definitive proof. It’s all subject to interpretation but my interpretation stems from all the variables and what they point to. It’s not just ONE thing like you claim.

Statistics
Multiple aliases and/or accounts
Previous history
In game behaviour before and after getting called out
Response in the forums.

Redkilla will always say that multiple aliases or accounts don’t mean a thing and of course it may not but my take on it all is; if you are creating a bunch of aliases and buying accounts then what are you hiding? How many “little brothers” do you have using your account.

I’ve been doing this for a long time pal so I’ve heard every excuse in the book and so have the owners of the server and this forum.

Secondly, BF4 is almost 4 years old. The net ode has been tweaked and although it will never be as good as BF2 it is far better than it was when BF4 first launched. One fishy kill and yeah might be lag or a server hiccup but multiple fishy kills made by the same player and players complaining in the chat is not the fault of game dynamics. Players who magically flip around to one shot kill you is not server lag or a netcode issue so anyone using that excuse might also want to explain why this anomaly seems to always occur in their favour.

Statistics - One "fishy" stat on my account.
Multiple aliases and/or accounts - You insinuate that I'm faking Rednekxd's profile to use it as my own. Yet you failed to pay attention when I played with you or literally any other time I'm in the server, he plays at the same time I do and squads up with me every game he can. Hell, I killed him the other day when I was in your squad and I TOLD YOU I killed him right after I did it. Must be my ultimate "HAX" are allowing me to control two players at the same time. Check Battle Report if you don't believe me.
Previous history - Of what?
In game behaviour before and after getting called out - So, what tells you someone is hacking from how they react to getting called a hacker? They aren't gonna go, "yeah! I'm hacking! Please give me my perm ban!" You cant take a reaction to getting called out into account because it doesn't effect whether or not they are actually cheating. They won't admit to it, so it's irrelevant. Even if I tell you guys I'm not cheating your mindset is that I am. It makes the "decision" biased, which isn't fair.
Response in the forums - Yeah. I'm here going through all this effort to do something about Voteban for no reason. Voteban has it's place against actual hackers but here it's being abused against anyone who does well. That's why I started the thread.

They aren't excuses, they are counter-arguements you are failing to refute because you know I'm not cheating but you don't want your safety net to disappear and break the illusion that there aren't players out there that are better than you. That, or you actually do believe I'm cheating and have solidified the idea and burned it into your mind, so that no matter what I say you will make up any idea in your head to rationalize your conclusion. If you have been doing it for a long time then obviously whatever power you have has gone to your head because this system isn't fair or just at all, and pretty much every good player that enters your server gets booted and stops playing on it because they know they will just get votebanned.

You know, if you haven't noticed, actual hackers aren't exactly subtle about cheating. There are tons of servers with broken anti-cheat with people flying through walls and aimbotting, turning themselves invisible and crossmapping with pistols constantly against players that are too stubborn to go find another server. Those are the kind of servers they play on. The amount of people I've witnessed get votebanned because "HAXING MY GAME!" is ridiculous. No amount of cheaters do this bad over this time frame. I watched you try to voteban a guy that was 34-26 over the course of 17 minutes not even half an hour ago. Even Redkilla came out and said the ban was stupid. Luckily it expired with 1 vote left but if that doesn't indicate the current system is broken I don't know what does. One of the top admins for the server, said the voteban system was stupid. Even if it was for one instance.

On the topic of "one shot kills" from "netcode": Newsflash, they aren't one shot kills. If you watch the demo for a game you will see things don't happen as smoothly as you think on clientside because the server updates at a rate of 30hz. This means in-game damage and reports to clientside happen 30 times a second. So every 33.3333333 (repeating) milliseconds. Now, take into consideration that the average time to kill on weapons in battlefield 4 sits around the 300ms mark, and that the average reaction time of a human being is 250ms, which you add 30 onto for your brains electrical signals to tell your body to move and you get 280ms to react to taking damage. Keep in mind this is for young adults age 18-25, as you get older your reaction times WILL slow, its a sad fact of life. Anyway, some weapons that you will see in close quarters can give off the "one shot" because with high damage model or high rate of fire weapons, they do damage so quickly that in a close to mid-range situation (i.e. the aggressor comes around the corner and lands a headshot followed up by 2-3 body shots or another headshot) you will see a damage tick and then die. It's not instant, but it appears so on your screen because of the tickrate combined with your reaction time and the time it takes your bodies senses to tell your brain what just occured. It is precisely for this reason weapons like the SCAR-H and ACE 21 CQB are banned in competitive BF4. The players do not have time to react because on their screens they die instantly. When in reality the other player just shot them in the head twice. They would ban the AEK and FAMAS and other high rate of fire weapons, however those are not as easy to land the shots needed due to spread and recoil AND they give one (just one!) damage tick (the red arrow telling you where you get shot from) on the other players screen before they die, giving the other player about 4-7 frames to react on a 144hz monitor at 300 fps if the player is using an AEK. It's not an anomaly, its just the way the game works. Kill the guy in the first few shots in you don't want him to turn around and shoot back. That way he can't outaim or get a lucky set of shots on you.
 
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So let me get this straight. You come here to complain about the voteban issue but you don’t register under your in game name.... flag number one

Yesterday you were in the server playing with us and I’ll agree you were very vocal in squad chat and that’s great! Nothing wrong with that. Your play style is lone wolf, not a flag capper but you call out targets and help the squad without putting yourself at risk almost as if you’re really in the fight. All good there

Then a few rounds later I’m reading in the chat a out you using hacks? Yeah it might be a hackussation I get that but a lot of people are also complaining. For the record I’ve never started a vote an against you but I yeah, if you’re gonna complain about your voteban then it’s in your best interest to be as transparent as possible and provide your player info. If you have nothing to hide then why not? I’ve been acccused of hacking MANY times I have nothing to hide and invite the accusers to look me up. Also..... I registered under my in game player name ;)

I've told you multiple times. I DID register under my in-game name. You people ban me everytime I enter under that name so guess what? I utilized a feature that EA put in for everyone to use to avoid scrutiny from you and the others that can't stand my presence. If this ever gets fixed I would be more than happy to play under my usual name, but until that does happen, I'll do whatever I like with my account. Even if it only stops you temporarily.

I do cap flags. That's what the little Assault icon with the wings and the star over the center represents. I play a medic normally and I'm on the flags 90% of the time. However, this usually proves to be too much for people like you to handle because before I know it I have 50+ kills from you guys rushing and not paying attention. I played a sniper because it limits the engagements I can take and forces me to play more passively. I can't heal myself and I am much weaker at close to mid-range so I need to fight at longer ranges, like just outside the objectives or on the objectives stopping people from coming onto them in the first place. It means less kills and I have to play a supportive role, but it keeps you and whoever else from calling me out every match.

I DID provide my player info. It's in the post you quoted! What are you talking about? I'm being as transparent as possible, you just don't want to take the time to pay attention and read it.

You did start a vote against me. I had 63 kills and I was playing on A 4 days ago and there were 200 tickets left. You started the vote against me and I was voted out in under two minutes due to Beckler, WellFedSOB, and Gremslee (who especially detests me) being there. I even joked around with my friends about it (knowing full well that there was no way I was gonna stay in at that point) and when I came back the next day under a new name they asked if I was gonna get banned again that day (which I did, and you voted yes on that one as well) I didn't screenshot either but I was playing under Sean_PriceBF4 for the first one. I'll be sure to screenshot it next time you do initiate one on me.

Hey nickna, any reason why you have the same IP as Sean_PriceBF4 in our forums ???? One or the other is going to be banned from here, which user name do you prefer? Nice try though.. Ive been doing this a while. That's typical behavior of someone that's a fucking cheat.

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We play literally every round we can together because we are BROTHERS. We live under the same roof. We have told you this multiple times. We have played on your server for weeks now together at the same time. I.E. We have the same I.P. because we are using the same ISP. I don't magically have two bodies to play the game with at the same time. Check your battle reports over the last 3 weeks before you go throwing out accusations. We have played at least 40 rounds together on this server. If that isn't enough for you we can hop in teamspeak and prove it that way if the reports aren't enough for you.

That’s insane two totally different people with the same IP!!!!

Wooooooow

How’s the weather in Carthage NY?

I'm not from Carthage bro. You are about 30-40 miles off. That's where my provider is located.

Funny you didn't mention that at the beginning. So you accuse Akula of being bias??? But not you huh.. I mean you are just his brother. Give me a break

You haven't been following this at all apparently. I give well-known facts from players and organizations and analysts that have been at the heart of the pro Battlefield community since the games inception of the pro scene. He gives weak excuses that don't hold up.

To answer your question, if I were you I would squad up with the people that you recognize vote banning you and ask them what issues they have. So much can be solved in a simple verbal Conversation. We are providers of a free service nothing more.

Apparently not seeing as to how one of your top admins is threatening me before he knows all the facts.

Dude I call it like I see it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong... I don't care. So let me guess, you're his little brother? He is such a nice guy to share his account with you. AWWWWWW

Calling it like you see it isn't the point. It's about what actually is true, and what's true is that your lack of caring is getting a lot of people who play fair kicked out because you can't hack it.

Awww, I'm touched. 2 years huh? I'm 2 years younger too. Can be trying sometimes. Never getting the "NEW" bike. Always the hand me down. Never the babysitter, always the baby... Yeah bud, those years sucked balls. I feel you bro.

Sooo what is it you would like me to prove/disprove? Because your behavior clearly shows you were trying to hide something as I've stated in a previous post.

1. We aren't asking YOU to do anything. You chimed in, I'm just responding.
2. It's his account, if he doesn't want to show you his stats, you shouldn't have a problem with that. He's not saying it sucks and if I gifted him a copy of the game, guess what? It's my decision to do so and it has absolutely no effect on how he plays or on how I play. If you go by the logic that he should be banned because I chose to buy him a present go destroy every single gift anyone has ever given you. Same concept.
3. Why would he try to hide something? His stats are public information and you should know who he is at this point but you don't pay attention. I've mentioned him on multiple separate occasions and I can tell you firsthand his profile is even cleaner than mine. If you don't believe me actually read the post this time and look him up.
 
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