Raz_Amataza83 & ckel13 - What's up w/ that?

RaZz0o said:
Dan,

I am not trying to insult you at all, that is your assumption!

The reason in posting your chat statement to me after I UCAV'd you last night was to prove a point. Point being: You are in this thread complaining about the chat "getting toxic" and you go and scream "fuck you asshole" when you get killed with a tool that is in the game that you also happen to not like, seems like you're chewing on a big plate of hypocrisy to me.

I get it you don't like me, and Im good with that cause this is just a game...

~RaZz
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Well "toxic" can be used as a blanket statement. What I say and what you say are completely different things. Cursing at someone isn't toxic. A lot of players get off to being cursed at, knowing they made someone else angry. I understand this, I don't mind it, I kind of play into it by getting mad. What I do consider toxic is frequently taunting someone after you kill them, especially with a UCAV as there's hardly any counter-play to it and it seems to come out of nowhere. I understand the UCAV is part of the game, I don't really care if I get killed by someone like ElChango who just uses it as an additional tool. I do get mad at players who just camp and spam it. But that's just another part of the game. The fact that you don't know the difference between cursing at someone, which I consider an enjoyable part of the game, and taunting someone speaks a lot about what you know about being toxic. TBH I wouldn't dislike you as much if you didn't taunt people.
 
Dan_ said:
Well "toxic" can be used as a blanket statement. What I say and what you say are completely different things. Cursing at someone isn't toxic. A lot of players get off to being cursed at, knowing they made someone else angry. I understand this, I don't mind it, I kind of play into it by getting mad. What I do consider toxic is frequently taunting someone after you kill them, especially with a UCAV as there's hardly any counter-play to it and it seems to come out of nowhere. I understand the UCAV is part of the game, I don't really care if I get killed by someone like ElChango who just uses it as an additional tool. I do get mad at players who just camp and spam it. But that's just another part of the game. The fact that you don't know the difference between cursing at someone, which I consider an enjoyable part of the game, and taunting someone speaks a lot about what you know about being toxic. TBH I wouldn't dislike you as much if you didn't taunt people.
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Very well said Dan,

100% agree it's taunting that gets pushes people over the edge to the point they don't come back because of you're "style" of game play.
 
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Its is just a game people. Yes, mr Razz and mr sani can occasionally take it to the edge. Trash talking, I get the flying dildo on occasionally from them fuckers...and I usually cuss at them. But they know I'm smiling while I cuss. Do they bait players into firing from uncap.....probably but it's hard to catch them unless you know their hiding places. They are excellent at the ucav.
Ms. Mochroi is a great player, she can take it just like everyone else. Hell no she doesn't sit in tanks all day like mr tbg or some others. She is an amazing ground pounder too. If I had to judge on the accounts of gameplay, I would have to be on Ms. Mochroi's side.

That's my opinion,
Chris
 
Well hello everybody. I haven't been involved in this side of the server. I feel I need to clear some things up. I'll start with the invisibility thing. I was unaware of even being invisible. If it's a glitch in the game it was inadvertent and I have no idea how to recreate it. I do not cheat. ever. I admit to not being the best player, I enjoy when i'm in the positive and take it in stride when i have a bad game. If you don't believe me just spectate. You can watch my mediocre gameplay anytime you'd like.
Next let me clear the air with the Tks. I do not deny it. They were being assholes so we returned in kind. I don't have a major issue with them using the Ucav and I get "Everyone has their own gameplay" and "it's a part of the game." My major objection was that they were not contributing anything to the team. They were working on KD while they watched the rest of the team lose. Their shit talk doesn't even bother me. It too is part of the game (welcome to the internet). The fact that they dish it out almost all match, everymatch almost every night but can't take it even in the slightest bit is hilarious to me. 99% of the time I'm a team player and I expect everyone to at least carry their own weight. To see Kazzoo and Unsanitary Hands opt out of every match gets old, fast. As I see it the net loss to the team was only about 3 to 4 tickets. If you want to ban me for this so be it. There are other servers and I have a life outside of the game. Its not going to hurt my feelings.
 
ckel13 said:
Well hello everybody. I haven't been involved in this side of the server. I feel I need to clear some things up. I'll start with the invisibility thing. I was unaware of even being invisible. If it's a glitch in the game it was inadvertent and I have no idea how to recreate it. I do not cheat. ever. I admit to not being the best player, I enjoy when i'm in the positive and take it in stride when i have a bad game. If you don't believe me just spectate. You can watch my mediocre gameplay anytime you'd like.
Next let me clear the air with the Tks. I do not deny it. They were being assholes so we returned in kind. I don't have a major issue with them using the Ucav and I get "Everyone has their own gameplay" and "it's a part of the game." My major objection was that they were not contributing anything to the team. They were working on KD while they watched the rest of the team lose. Their shit talk doesn't even bother me. It too is part of the game (welcome to the internet). The fact that they dish it out almost all match, everymatch almost every night but can't take it even in the slightest bit is hilarious to me. 99% of the time I'm a team player and I expect everyone to at least carry their own weight. To see Kazzoo and Unsanitary Hands opt out of every match gets old, fast. As I see it the net loss to the team was only about 3 to 4 tickets. If you want to ban me for this so be it. There are other servers and I have a life outside of the game. Its not going to hurt my feelings.
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Ban not necessary
 
Heard about this nonsense from ckel and thought I'd clear the air.

1. Intentional TKing of these two absolutely happened and sorry.. not sorry. When Razz is being a toxic PoS on the server and only using the UCAV on matches and taunting players in the chat he gets what coming to him. That kind of toxic behavior can result in this sort of thing so he can blame himself. I hardly ever watch the chat when I'm playing and I was seeing people constantly complain about it over and over again. He was on my team for two matches and all he did was piss people off.

2. The accusations of hacking are rediculous. I wasn't even online at that time so CapUSMC seeing me intentionally help ckel with some exploit is pure BS. We have all encountered invisible players and people sliding around on their knees. That crap just happens in the games code.

If Razz wants to take the "It's just a game" stance than don't go whining on some forum for days on end and cause some 5 page thread on this nonsense.

That's all I'll be saying on the subject.

Raz out.
 
Dan_ said:
I agree, but ckel13 you can't TK just because someone on your team isn't pulling their weight. They have every right to do what they want, if it isn't against the rules.
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I didn't just say he wasn't pulling his weight. I said being an asshole.
 
Red...

We have literally multiple people saying they don't like razz0o because of they way he treats players, to the point of tking, leaving the server, ext...




I'm not saying ban him, in fact I'm not saying punish him. But when he comes in here complaining about something he caused (getting a reaction from someone) and asking for people to be banned...

I just don't see how you can back razz0o up by saying, I think it's funny keep doing it....
 
On a side note, Im glad people have come in here to work things out. It's a much better forum than in game chat.
 
Friedshrimpy said:
I get the flying dildo on occasionally from them fuckers...
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OH GOD that's too good, now I can't get mad at them flying dildos LOL!

whitefish21 said:
On a side note, Im glad people have come in here to work things out. It's a much better forum than in game chat.
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That's for sure, I always try to redirect people to the forums, from hackusations to IT help.
 
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iceman1915 said:
Red...

We have literally multiple people saying they don't like razz0o because of they way he treats players, to the point of tking, leaving the server, ext...




I'm not saying ban him, in fact I'm not saying punish him. But when he comes in here complaining about something he caused (getting a reaction from someone) and asking for people to be banned...

I just don't see how you can back razz0o up by saying, I think it's funny keep doing it....
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Im saying from what have personally witnessed. I'm not in there 24/7
 
RaZz0o said:
Dan,

I feed you a few UCAV's while you were in a chopper yesterday on Giants, you then proceeded to scream FUCK YOU ASSHOLE at me and throw a hissy fit about it. Is that
why you don't like me or is it my good sense of humor, charm or my rugged manly good looks?

Remember, it's just a game. Loosen up and have fun even if you're eating UCAV's bro.

BTW, I think your a great guy!

~RaZz
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you sound like a dick!..just saying and who needs that shit...sorry I call them as I see them
 
ckel13 said:
I didn't just say he wasn't pulling his weight. I said being an asshole.
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But you did...

My major objection was that they were not contributing anything to the team. They were working on KD while they watched the rest of the team lose.
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Their shit talk doesn't even bother me. It too is part of the game (welcome to the internet). The fact that they dish it out almost all match, everymatch almost every night but can't take it even in the slightest bit is hilarious to me.
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When and where did I/Raz ever object to shit talk, or give the appearance of not being able to take it? The rub, and basis for this thread, was giving away friendly positions to the enemy, and TKing.

And...

... To see Kazzoo and Unsanitary Hands opt out of every match gets old, fast. As I see it the net loss to the team was only about 3 to 4 tickets...
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First - cute pet names

Second - You seem to be missing the other side of the scale. Every kill WE rack up contributes to the bottom line. What about all of the snipers and clowns that sit in armor that aren't capping flags? I assume they get the same "gets old" sentiment from you? Just because I am not actively running to my death every round, doesn't mean there isn't a ticket contribution.

This is only a game. I appreciate the gameplay on THIS server, which is why I am here.
~SN
 
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