Temp Ban Ban Appeal

Wenchful_Spirit

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Username: Wenchful_Spirit

What is your soldier name in game ? Wenchful_Spirit

What server were you banned from ? RC1

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Your appeal statement: Hi,

I was banned for disputing with another player (Zadra_Xd) during the game who was first insulting other players and posting racist terms ("Kill Jews", e.g.) and after I was texting with him, while I am also simultaneously able of playing effectively due to my old times in Dota 2, I was banned by a player named KingChingTai (after he was asking me what this Zadra had written. so I quoted ""Kill Jews", for example?"" and this was taken as if I had said it, and then was immediately banned at the beginning of the next round (Link: https://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/1856775702172689728/1003986211107)

Sadly, my only proof is from the report from KingChingTai, so I hope you have the text log of this game.

I am known for texting during the game:
- for communication,
- jokes with other players, and also
- not-so-friendly posts against harrassing or racist players as well as glitch abusing gamers.

I may not be the best player concerning k/d ratio, but I am quite successful in playing in a team/squad and assist a lot (I do it for the game and for having fun and challenges. You can check this out in my reputation on this server).
I do not know what other players may think about me, but do hope it is mostly positive since I prioritize my efforts in team playing and achieving the game objective. I have fun with most of the people I play with, even when we lose. Hope this is not one-sided.

What I find a bit sad is, when:
- someone posts racist or homophobic terms and then cannot stand when other players like me react to it, like the principle of "hand it out but can't take it". And yeah, I also get a emotionally involved if someone posts things like that just for provocation.
- the person that posts racist terms gets away with it, but I get immediately banned when I merely quote the person (Zadra_Xd) to an asking gamer (KingChingTai).
Game Report Link: https://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/1856762119573497152/1003986211107

I hope that with this full and honest report I can get you to rethink your decision and unban me. My behaviour was not ideal, but I hope you also understand my point of view.


Thanks for reading this through and for working on that appeal thread,
Wenchful_Spirit

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Date You Were Banned Nov 13th, 2024
 

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I was in the game when Wenchful_Spirit was temp banned for racism. It doesn't matter how good or active you are as a player. When you decide to stoop and use the "N" word there is no excuse. Harmless banter is one thing, but it went way beyond that. Red is right, less typing and more playing.
 
Well. Thanks for the positive comments/reactions on this thread!

Sadly, I also learn from the other comments that it is a red crossing to use the "N" word if someone posts racist slurs, but it is obviously not forbidden to say "Kill [this or that kind of ethnic group]" (Zadra_Xd), or even becomes dismissed as 'harmless banter' (ElChangoFeo).

Yes hector1908, I also love to see the chat logs, so everyone can see what has been written. Next time I just use the screenshots more often.

To RedKilla and ElChangoFeo: yes I will certainly try to write less, even if it means to ignore racist slurs. I just find it shocking what is to be determined as red crossing and what is not.
 
Yes hector1908, I also love to see the chat logs, so everyone can see what has been written. Next time I just use the screenshots more often.
We all have those moments when we want to say bad things. I am not a saint either, I cursed at people in the game too, i just try not to go overboard. Some people do worse than others and maybe get away with it, but it is not up to us. Like you said, just take a screenshot and post it. Btw, 3 day ban isn`t so bad.
 
We all have those moments when we want to say bad things. I am not a saint either, I cursed at people in the game too, i just try not to go overboard. Some people do worse than others and maybe get away with it, but it is not up to us. Like you said, just take a screenshot and post it. Btw, 3 day ban isn`t so bad.
Ah Hector, don't get me wrong, I was just shocked about the arbitrariness of the situation.

First I did not know whether it was a temporary or permanent ban. 3 days is not that bad indeed.
 
Wenchful_Spirit, the game is so much better without the hate and negative banter. The mutes and bans are not arbitrary and are typically in response to complaints due to a player's racism or spamming of chat. The moderators (admins) receive every, !report sent and unfortunately many are bogus or false reports.

I saw you in game today and I was happy that you kept it clean. Welcome to the AARP server! Good players by far outnumber the bad, negative ones. Enjoy the server and have fun. Like Dan said, don't engage those who decide to throw racist comments around and just report them.
 
Wenchful_Spirit, the game is so much better without the hate and negative banter. The mutes and bans are not arbitrary and are typically in response to complaints due to a player's racism or spamming of chat. The moderators (admins) receive every, !report sent and unfortunately many are bogus or false reports.

I saw you in game today and I was happy that you kept it clean. Welcome to the AARP server! Good players by far outnumber the bad, negative ones. Enjoy the server and have fun. Like Dan said, don't engage those who decide to throw racist comments around and just report them.
ElChangoFeo,

I will observe and post racist slurs in the future. Hope there will be a change.
 
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Don't engage with people who use racial slurs. Just use the !report function and move on.
Hey Dan_,

I normally do not cower behind admins, I am used to adressing people directly, as I am in the real life.
But I understand that not everyone wants to read about such things during the game.
So I will use the !report function in the future.